My take on this question is to say I do both.

When it’s appropriate and when I am in a subordinate relationship then I am happy to follow the leader.

For much of my career, I was a leader, and in that context, I led

the followers.

I’ve been able to do this – in both capacities – because I don’t stand on unnecessary ceremony and I never have kowtowed to anybody.

As a leader, I was never in a position of wanting to be somebody relishing ascribed power. Always I tried to work based on being a leader who acquired the respect of those with whom he worked.